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Note: this question was totally rephrased and expanded on, addressing the comments and questions posed to the first version.

The de-facto standard source for runoff calculations in South Africa is the "SANRAL Runoff Manual" (http://www.nra.co.za/content/Drain5.pdf)

I need to design a weir for a small earth dam in an arid area with a small (smaller than 200 ha), fairly flat catchment area in southern Africa. The idea behind the dam is to collect not more than 10 000 cubic metres of water for small stock watering purposes for the immediate time after the rainy season, somewhat reducing the dependency on ground water.

To design the dam wall and the spillway, one needs flow data through the catchment area in question. The rational method provides this formula: $Q=\frac{CIA}{3,6}$              ...(3.8)
where: $Q \hskip{1.5em}= $ peak flow (m3/s)
   $C \hskip{1.7em}= $ run-off coeficient (dimensionless)
   $I\hskip{2em} = $ average rainfall intensity over catchment (mm/hour)
   $A \hskip{1.7em}= $ effective area of catchment (km2)
   $3,6\quad = $ conversion factor

In arid areas rainfall events often are thunderstorms of fairly short duration, often less than an hour. These events are separated by long dry periods. Rainfall is generally measured on a daily basis. These recorded values are daily rainfall values, but they say nothing about the duration of the rainfall events.

Rainfall intensity is determined by dividing rainfall by the duration of the rainfall event. Thus, the shorter the rainfall event, the higher the rainfall intensity for the same amount of total rainfall. But since rainfall is not really measured by the second, minute or hour it is impossible to accurately determine rainfall intensity in areas where the rainfall events are short. In fact the margin for error increases tremendously as the duration of rainfall events decreases.

Using rainfall this data (with a large margin of error) for large catchment areas is not recommended, since the rainfall does not have a "temporal distribution for at least a duration equal to the time of Concentration" (page 3.17). Q would be over-estimated and thus dams and spillways would be over-designed.

The opposite is true for small catchment areas, where the time of concentration is less than the duration of a rainfall event. The margin of error in the rainfall intensity calculation will become unacceptably critical. Especially for very small dams they will either be under designed, or they will be financially unfeasible.

Is there an alternative method to determine runoff in arid areas, where rainfall events are of short duration and accurate rainfall data (rainfall and duration of rainfall events) is not available?

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    @mart ... your 'cigarette box calculation' is very far from what the hydrological approach is. You did not take into account topography, evaporation, percolation etc. Also, catching the entire rainfall is unfair for downstream communities, thus a percentage must be allowed to pass. Dam design is not that easy :) – SlydeRule Apr 22 '16 at 10:27
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    the problem is that I need to establish the 50 year, 100 year and 150 year floods in a perennial river where there is no data available, except rudimentary daily rainfall and a topographical survey. To design the dam height and spillway, you need the runoff. "The rest" doesn't help me. The rational method for this area gives me excessively high values which don't make any sense. – SlydeRule Apr 27 '16 at 15:11
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    So your problem is the lack of accurate data (50yr, 100yr, 150yr) and not the method used. As @air mentions, you are stating that there is a problem with the method when you aren't sure of your input values. – hazzey Apr 27 '16 at 21:00
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    Let me rephrase the question then ... – SlydeRule Apr 28 '16 at 07:05
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    I'm just brainstorming: Can you find from meteorological data how much *can* precipitate in one (50yr, 100yr ...) event? Tricky and interesting question. Might be a good fit for earthscience SE. – mart Apr 28 '16 at 11:59
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    Just a little background with regard to meteorological data: Developing countries used to be colonies, they are generally poorly developed and collecting weather data is right at the bottom of priorities. At best you have a simple rain gauge at a weather station in the nearest town or centre, which can be up to 200km away. This does not take into account skills and record keeping of the person looking after the weather station. To answer your question, as far as I know, new weather stations can take rainfall readings every 15 min. But to extrapolate recent/new data is dangerous too ... – SlydeRule Apr 28 '16 at 12:10
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    @mart This is [already cross-posted on earth science](http://earthscience.stackexchange.com/q/7883) and being on-topic somewhere else does not make it off-topic here. Dam and weir design is very much an engineering concern. – Air Apr 28 '16 at 16:16
  • And you do don't have an answer which means that either it never got built or the guesstimate was accepted as gospel bull and Built anyway, knowing South African governance... – Rhodie Apr 02 '19 at 18:41
  • In the absence of a different approach the fallback is always the established method, so that is what was used. I don't think I should close this question because it has not been answered. – SlydeRule Apr 10 '19 at 05:33
  • You didn't mention what is the purpose of the dam whether it is for flood control (not likely) or other functions such as irrigation or water reservoir. Without knowing the purpose, the calculation is aimless and meaningless. – r13 Aug 17 '21 at 13:52
  • over-designing is the only correct way. there is exactly 0 chance that a design exactly meets specs. this is why one must use tolerances. the method to dealing with insufficient data is generally to get more data. in some parts of the world, an excess of drainage areas are allocated for sudden rain. these areas become recreational parks and the like when dry. – Abel Dec 15 '21 at 09:25
  • Please clearly define the scope of the design, whether it is planning for the entire reservoir and containment dam, or the weir structure to regulate the flow only, as the need for accurate intensity measurement is quite different for each (capacity vs strength concerns). – r13 Dec 15 '21 at 17:30

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After some thought it occurred to me that sedimentary data would exist showing previous flood events. To examine this would require soil samples to be taken where sediment has built up inside a river bend. The fine materials will remain on upper levels of each flood event and historic rainfall data may shed light on volume in catchment.

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  • To my knowledge on cannot deduce detail runoff data from geology as you explained. Do you have a reference? – SlydeRule Sep 11 '21 at 03:11
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There is something wrong here... a catchement area of max 200 hectares...and only 10 000 cubic meters?

1ha is 10 000 square meters (100x100 meters) so 200 ha is 2 000 000 square meters which makes the height necessary to equal 10k/2M meters or 0.005 meters= 5 millimeter.

I'm pretty sure over that area ground penetration and evaporation would be higher, it would need to be impenetrable so just evaporation is a factor..even then... I'm fairly certain it rains more than 5 millimeters in the rainy season. You aren't trying to build this in Sahara desert by chance?

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